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Disruptive Pediatrics meets Anatomy  Trains

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Hello everybody. This is Dr. Drew. And I am here with disruptive pediatrics today. We’re going to have a very special guest, Tom Myers, the author of the phenomenal book, fourth edition. Now anatomy, trains that you so much ChiroSecure for bringing this to you guys. I think it is so important to have more and more pediatric information out there.

And ChiroSecure is certainly supporting pediatrics and chiropractics. So I appreciate that. Let’s go to the slides right now. Like I said, I want the vanc ChiroSecure. I want to thank Tom Myers for being our special guest. This is so amazing. I don’t know how many of you guys have actually seen or read anything about anatomy, trains, but I want to share this with you.

Because it is another one of these mind blowing revolutionary things that I love talking to you and bringing this information to you. So the old way, if you all remember when we went through anatomy classes, we were taught like, here’s the bicep and the bicep does this, and this is just how the bicep works.

And it pulls the skeleton in a certain way. And this is what they call the single muscle theory and this image and this picture here represents the muscle. With analyzing a very specific action. And what Tom Meyer said is imagine that the skeleton was denuded of all the given muscle. What would that single muscle do to skeleton acting on its own?

And that’s what would be the single muscle theory, there’s what would that one muscle, right? So you’ve got the bicep and it moves a certain way. What does that one muscle do? So this, the biceps will be defined as a radio owner, supinate or an elbow flexor a week fluctuates. But the anatomy trains perspective is much more global, which is why I think this is such a great thing for chiropractic in the anatomy, trains view, additional information to add to this, the bicep break guys, an element in a continuous fascial plane or mild fashion morning, which runs from the outside of the thumb to the fourth rib.

And beyond now, this doesn’t negate the first, as he’s saying it doesn’t negate the fact that we’re a arm flexor, but what it does is it shows that. Stabilization of the thumb, keeping the chest open, helping breathing. There’s so many other pieces to this. And the reason why I think this is so important for chiropractic is because, when you’re adjusting a child, you’re not just adjusting an Atlas, right?

You might be touching Atlas. You might be touching a sacred, might be touching a T4, but you’re really doing a lot more because there’s so much more that’s going on. And that’s what we’re going to keep on talking about and what he talks about Mr. And you’ll see in a couple of minutes, when we pull on his video, his whole body communicating networks central to this new anatomy, trans map is the functional unity of the connective tissue system.

And what he’s taught when he talks about is that there are three major networks in which you’ve stripped everything else away. You still see an outline of the body and that’s the basketball system, the connective tissue system, or the fascial system. And I love it that he puts it right here in his own book.

The neuro. And there’s a, this is a picture on the right-hand side of what the neural net would look like. If there’s all the muscle, all the bone and everything else away and just had the neural net left and he’s was very big into the whole idea of 10 Segretti, 10 segregate. Instead of what we know of as our system being like bones, like constructed around muscles, where really it’s a whole system that interconnects.

Cause if you actually took our bones out and you stack them, they were just collapsed on the floor. And if you took our muscles out, they’re just collapsed on the floor. So there’s a lot more to what we are and what he is suggesting is that. The bones in our body actually have a pushing out force.

And the fascia that connects the bones, which surrounds the muscles, which surrounds the organs, which surrounds our brain and the dura mater though, the fascia pulls in. So this way it works together. It works together. And it’s not that the biceps brachii high or, moves in one particular direction is that when we move like this, everything is.

When we move like this, the brain is telling it to move. We move like this. The nerves are working. The blood vessels are working. It’s all together. It’s not just this little separate entity. Like he says here, take the muscles away. And the skeleton is anything but stable. Take the soft tissue away and the bones were clouded to the floor.

The bones and cartilage are clearly compression, resisting struts that push outward against the myofascial net. The net and turn is always tensional. Always tried to pull inward towards the center, both elements and the surface stability and could contribute to practical mobility. And this is why it’s so important for us to understand this with pediatrics, because with pediatrics, when we are adjusting this child, especially kids who are.

Which is what we’ve seen a lot of when we have a child is neuro divergent and we’re adjusting them. You can adjust an Atlas and you can get, you can, especially if you do stuff like network you could adjust an Atlas and watch their feet move. You can adjust their sacrum and watch them arch their head back like this.

And how was that happening is because it’s all connected. And there are six main anatomy trains, which doctor, which Mr. Myers will we’ll talk about and what, but what I want to just kind of preface before we bring this out is the brilliance of taking this concept from the thought process of everything is separate.

We have a separate muscle here and a separate bone there and putting it all together. And now I’m going to bring on Mr. Tom Myers, author of anatomy, trains, no therapy and rehab in particular. Chiropractic osteopathic and others more generally have gone under the Newtonian laws, enforced emotion. And that’s how we thought of biomechanics.

And that’s why we came up with the musculoskeletal system and by using the laws of mechanics, which by the way, it was published in 1687 Bible rally that the guy. The, the leverage biomechanics that we’ve been working on for the last 400 years. And given that we now have systems give it’s theory.

Now, given that we have game theory, given that we have cybernetics, it really was time for an update on this. And I was teaching anatomy and everybody else does to students at the Rolfing Institute, because my primary teacher was I to Ralf. And so I was teaching for her Institute, but only anatomy is, are this muscle and origin and insertion.

And I was looking for a way to open this up to people. There is a scalable framework. And I hope I’m speaking allegedly to your chiropractic friends. The idea that there is a skeletal framework that would stand up on its own and therefore individual muscles, like the deltoid is responsible for a reduction because it’s approximating the origin and insertion of the muscle.

Just what was inadequate to the task. Analyzing real complicated rehabilitation problems, complicated postural problems, or, injuries that had metastasized, so to speak and distributed themselves through the Excel. I think that my model, it’s not that anatomy, trains is a replacement for origin insertion.

It is I think a good addition. And I think there’ll be other ways of looking at the connections through the body anatomy trains. And I think that your concept of utilizing 10 Segretti, like Buckminster fuller came about really fits into that kind of model where everything is connected to everything kind of stuff.

So would you expand on that? Yeah, these are, this is true of most tension dependent systems. And having to move with the interview is I don’t have my tensegrity structures here to show you, but I’m sure you can put one up or something. They. The idea is we are used to continuous compression and structures.

Our houses are continuous compression structure, one breakdown on top of the other, and you can go as high as whatever that tower is and Dubai But we’re not continuous compression, but we’ve been acting as if the headsets on the Atlas and the head and the Atlas that’s on the access near. And that I tested on C3 all the way down, through all time, hooking onto the central table and that all comes down to our feet and then the muscles move at frame around.

And it’s just not the way it is. If you take the muscles, if you take a soft tissue off of the skeleton and it will clattered to the floor and we’ll have a hard time putting it back. Even if you put the ligaments on it, you could probably lean it in the corner. If you jam the knees back in the hyper extension but a skeleton, even that the ligament small stand it is the interaction between the myo fascia.

The ligament is bad and the skeleton that make this thing stand up. And so then when you get to that understanding, you realize all the bone are pushing. Against an elastic that’s pulling in we’re all our cells are balloons and we are a balloon and the skin and the fascia underneath the skin and the muscles underneath the fascia are all trying to pull in.

And the skeleton is spitting. They’re resisting. Pulling in if you get more pulling, how many do you see in here? Yeah, if you get more pulling on the front then the skeleton gets pulled into here and this is in balance. You can say this is imbalanced. If you want, it’s not ideal balanced, but it’s balanced.

It’s balanced in between the pushing out of the skeleton and the pulling in of the muscles. It’s just that our psychology makes that a really interesting. Yes. Brilliant. Brilliant. I love it. And one of the things that you also said in chapter 10 of your latest fourth edition anatomy training. Oh my God, you actually read it.

How many people come up to me on the circuit and say, I have your book, which means I haven’t read it on the shelf. I looked at it, I looked at it and there were too many words. I love the concept of the KQ, right? Cause we all know about IQ, right? And each queue is the latest buzzword, but you with movement literacy, that was so important, especially like now we’re going to delve more the pediatrics, especially with pediatrics to talk about how we can help install or instill more KQ and movement literacy into a pediatric patient.

So much of our therapeutic world. Excuse me. Let me start that again. So much of our therapeutic world is based on lack. You are not aligned. You are not your full self. You don’t have the energy that everybody seems to have on Facebook. All of that stuff comes in along with advertising can give us a terrible image of ourselves and I’m really dedicated.

And that sounds like disruptive pediatrics is dedicated to. Not letting people get to 40 years old where they’re half broken down. And I’m not gonna say anything about nutrition goes, I eat. So I don’t have anything to say about nutrition psychological health. I might have something to say about that, but probably nobody should listen to me cause I have no expertise.

However, movement hygiene is something that we have on. I don’t know if you’re old enough. I remember president Kennedy’s council on physical fitness in the 1960s. We’ve been periodically trying to get the populist more active and that’s great to get more active. I would go for a different thing.

Movement hygiene that you have the vocabulary. If you’re talking about kinesthetic intelligence, any intelligence requires a vocabulary. We need to have a language of movement for our children that isn’t necessarily about them being athletically wonderful, because that’s where the only money is. There is no money for music anymore.

Music is a physical skill. There is no money for. Dance anymore. Dance since a physical skill, there’s no money for art anymore. Art is a physical skill, et cetera, et cetera. All the physical skills are being taken out of school. On top of that, you’re driving there and above, and you’re spending most of your time on a screen.

Another thing that I’ve seen a lot with these kids on the spectrum, especially is they have what I call a defensive posture, so that they’re often like this shoulder high on one side hip Hyatt on the side head is pitch forward. Eyes are squinting. So it’s almost as if they’re like they’re being attacked.

Even though they’re not being attacked. But they’re in this attack, defense kind of posture and speaking through the anatomy, trains, what do you think is happening in that kind of thing? And how could chiropractors using the concepts of anatomy trains look at that differently. You don’t want anybody to be stuck in a pattern.

People get stuck in patterns because they don’t complete an experience. An experience consists of a sensation. And then you have a feeling about that sensation, mammalian brain, and then you order that into your world. More monkey brain. And then you move and chroma can be described as getting stuck somewhere along that chain.

Many people get stuck between the concept and the movement. In other words, they’re holding back the movement. So the first thing that I would say is I would look at these kids and say, wow you know what movement is not happening, what movement has not happened. One last thing I want to mention to you, you actually turned me on to this book too.

The architecture of human living fascia by Sean clerk. Timbered. Do I hope I said that, and how does your work in anatomy trains? And I know how it does, but how does it. With this book and how, like, how did you get the idea to look into his work and, put it together with yours?

I was introduced to fascia by Ida Rolf in 1973 was when I first heard that word I’ve evolved that work from. Her and she was in fascia. So we were all looking at fascia. I was involved with them and then Jim Oshman who wrote energy medicine. And he took, he at Ida. Rolf’s requested a literature search on fascia and came up with such amazing stuff that kept me going for awhile.

It wasn’t until 2007 that we had the first fascial research Congress and that brought scientists and practitioners together, our Rutgers osteopaths, lots and lots of people like us. And so we learned a great deal about the fascia since, and it was there that I learned about Gannon Bertos work saw his films.

I’ve been over to Bordeaux where he works in a surgery. When we first learned about fascial promoter Ralf, it was the top sinewy, like the tape at the post office, full of fiber. And that’s the model that we were working on. And I had her all, actually, they said you shouldn’t be looking at these gels at the ground substance as we called it then.

And cause she was a chemist. I’m not a chemist. She was a chemist. And It turns out that the really interesting stuff, of course, college and the last one and ridiculous, and the rest are interesting, but but responsibility for what goes on in the tissue is more with the carrot and can drive a high hour.

And all of these. Heparin laminin, there’s 150 of them. Now think of these, of what you could call an edgy song, what holds us together. So we are held together by an edgy zone of these 150 chemicals that are tying ourselves together and cells, our cell functions that tie them together on a local basis.

So tie your body together so that you are recognizable today from our vulnerable yesterday, things have to stay pretty much in the same shape. That is really the responsibility of the fibroblasts who gardens. The fascial system for us. Finally, I would just say that we have a lot of chiropractors.

Who’ve either come to take this, not because they’re actually going to do the manipulations that we do, but to be able to see the way we do into that’s helpful. And otherwise chiropractors, many chiropractors have soft tissue workers. To supplement their practice so that they do the HBLA thrusts and somebody else’s doing soft tissue work to go along with it.

And so I would urge them to think about somebody who was anatomy, trains trained to have an assist there because they’ll be looking much more at the global pattern rather than at this local. You’ll notice is not working. That superspinatus is not working because the levator scapulae that’s in an anatomy drain with it.

Isn’t working and it isn’t working because the head’s far where then you can actually get to the place where you have a much more functioning, sensitive. Responsive and resilient system, at least I think so. If we combined forces, we could afford the ignorance about how the human system works in terms of movement because of the environment required.

Yes. Yes. The paleo. The environment required movement, the agricultural environment, the agricultural world that we’ve been in love for the last 10,000 years or so required movement, even in the industrial world. Although we had Lavonne and other people in the industrial era because people were doing repetitive movements again and again, and not the kind of movement that would promote health.

So now we are in a place where people are sitting so much in front of a screen so much that movement is now rapidly becoming an emergency. I think you and I are early bell ringers of this particular emergency. And but I absolutely in 15 years when the Metro versus going, how you occupy your body and how you use your body in a way to keep your mind healthy in the metaverse.

It there’s going to be an actual challenge for the next gen. Yes. You had said in one of your lectures that I’ve watched it, the world doesn’t require us to move anymore. And that’s exactly what you and I are trying to combat whether it’s kids or adults or athletes or anybody in between. So thank you once again.

Tom Myers for joining us today. This was really interesting, and just confirms why I haven’t been so enthusiastically teaching about anatomy trends over the last 10 years or so. So thank you very much. And I look forward to talking to you again. Dr. Rubin has been a pleasure. Take care.

Thanks everybody. So therapy and we have in particular. There we go. One of the books that I mentioned there and Mr. Meyers commented on, was this another amazing book? So I personally think you guys got to get two books on Amazon here is the anatomy trains fourth edition, latest when they just came out and this one, the architecture of human living fascia.

Because what, I don’t know if you’ve ever seen maybe take a look at something called strolling under the skin that did 20, 30 years ago. And what he did is he’s a surgeon in in Europe. And what he did is he actually took a probe with people’s permission and went underneath the skin to see what was really happening.

And there’s a, our fascia is actually a living. And the are movements. Th w when you look at the movements of the fascia and the muscles, they’re asking the people to move and stuff, and you look at it as this actually happening. You’ll see it, this myriad of these like octahedron tetrahedron, shapes moving, and it’s twisting and bending.

And as Mr. Myers was talking about. W what we used to think of when we did dissection years and years ago in anatomy labs, back at life university in the eighties, fascia, is this something. Just get rid of this. But it’s actually just really ugly interlaced thing that’s slides and lives and surrounds things.

And this is what it’s making me think of him. This is like why I wanted to bring this to you guys, because I have this hypothesis that the brain spine and nerve system are way more complicated than we currently think. Just like they are delving into the fashion now and they’re creating, they have neuro fascia and Cradio fascia, and they’re figuring that fashion.

Is such an important part of our bodies. I think that now, obviously they’ve been studying the brain forever and they now have MRIs like standard MRIs of every age group and stuff. But I think that there’s more, I think that there’s more to the brain spine and nerve system. And I think that more is why chiropractic is so successful.

We just haven’t faded out. Yes, you can say, cause I’ve seen with doctor four in some activator seminars I’ve seen when you adjust with an activator or probably with any other kind of adjustment that the brain lights up. And I know Heidi Harvick is doing the same kind of research.

So the prefrontal cortex is so important with the brain, but maybe there’s more to the brain and the spine and the nerves than we think. So like when you’re Sean Clark, Gilbert do put that person. In to the skin and looked at the fascia and he saw, wow, this is not what we thought of. It is not just this surface that is just sitting there, like a TheraBand is so much more than that.

Maybe there’s more to the brain spinal nerve system than we think. Maybe that’s why we are so successful as a chiropractor is because of what we do. So I want us to think about that and I want us to think about like this, I saw this video, someone was opening up a grapefruit or an orange. And this is what it’s like.

So when you look at the outside of an orange, it looks like one way, and then you open it up. You have layer if the layer of the layer of the layer. That is what I think the nerve system is I don’t think. The way we think it is. I think there’s so much more, and that is why chiropractors, especially pediatric chiropractors is so successful because what they’re talking about is that fascia is alive.

Fascia is plastic, just like there’s neuroplasticity. There’s now something called fascial plasticity. And I’m beginning to think as I’ve been doing this now for 33 years, that the brain and nerve system and the fascial cell. Or having a lot to do together and we just, haven’t pieced it out yet.

And what I love to add, I’m asking you guys out there. You’re my listeners is if you have some thoughts about this, please contact us either context for car security. You can email You can Facebook me on Rubin family chiropractic or Instagram me. I would love to hear your thoughts about this because I feel that there is so much more for us to uncover.

That uncovering is going to bring us to the next place, because if you think about this this is one of the people that are responsible for fascia being such a big study today is that. Their work relates to the innovation of fascia and fascia can has a direct connection with the autonomic nervous system.

So if that is true, we, we’ve been talking about the polyvagal theory for the last 10 years or so. And I spoke with Dr. Porges recently that you probably have seen, if you can understand that the faster. The fascia plays a role in an autonomic nerve system damages. The part of the vagus nerve has role with the fascia to me.

I don’t know about you guys, but when I think about the depth with which chiropractic is, and has not really a hundred percent been explored, it gets me excited. It gets me thrilled to think of what can be coming. If you want to hear more stuff like this, we got this amazing podcasts. I just published this morning, my 465th episode.

So I love to hear what you have to say about that. I mentioned the polyvagal, a seminar with Dr. Portia’s recently. This is if you want to click here or user QR. To click there, you can click into it. We’ve had a lot of positive feedback from this seminar and I’m striving to start building more seminars with the political Institute.

So we can really create a great connection between us and other professions that have the same mindset. I am a speaker for the ICPA. So I’d love for you to join us. This is the link to our lectures on the ICPM one of the main speakers. And we also I am going to be doing the first ever tongue tie or what we’re calling pediatric midline defect seminars in September on September 17th.

So click on the link if you’re interested in getting more information. And I, as I always end all my ChiroSecure talks. I love under Armour. I wear under armor quite a bit. And I love that saying is protect this house. And to me, the most important thing we need to do is to protect our future.

Is that just more kids? We’ve got to get out there and adjust more kids. Tom Myers made me think so much about how is it. So I talked about that defensive posture. How is it that, that child’s not just brain and nerve system, but how is their fascia being interrupted? Because of the subluxation process. So let’s go, we’re done with the slides.

Let’s go back to the full screen. What I’m asking you guys to think about is help me help the kids, help me figure out what we need to do with our kids, because our kids are they’re our future. Our kids are the ones who we really need to focus on. There’s an urgent issue in the last couple of months with the shootings in new Valdi at the elementary school and or the high school and the, or the, and the shootings in Buffalo and the shootings at that 4th of July parade.

We have got to help our kids because who are the people doing this? We have got to get out that we’ve got to protect our kids. How can we get to our kids? It is up to us. It is up to us to take care of the kids. Thank you so much ChiroSecure for having me on this. If you want to talk more about what we’ve talked about, check out Tom Myers, book anatomy, trains, check out Jean-Claude keyboard.

Do’s book architecture, the human living fashion. Find me on Facebook at Rubin chiropractic, . family chiropractic w email me at I love to have a conversation. I’d love to get more people involved in this kind of work, because between what we are doing and what ChiroSecure is trying to do to reach out to the masses about pediatrics with myself and Monica Berger and Erica quality.

I think this is a. We’ve got to secure our future and the future is our kids. Thank you so much, everybody. I really appreciate your attention. God bless. And we’ll see you next time.

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